Independence

[Kshitij]

On the eve of India's 60th Independence Day let us define what exactly independence is ?

[kris]

Freedom to dream and achieve ur dreams.

[viSh]

freedom to take your own decisions and get credits for what u've done..

[viSh]

freedom to choose what.. when.. where.. you want to work..

[Mahek]

independence is freedom = democracy. which we dont observe in any country. altho it is our 60th anniversary of independence, but are we truly independent? i doubt the independence that we have. earlier it was britishers, and today it our politicians. yes we have got freedom in a lot things and aspects of lives, but what we achieved so far is freedom from foreign rulers and bondages to indian rulers.

i do not deny that we are not free/independent, but its more inclination towards dependence.
 

[Kshitij]

well i guess the thread has deviated into two topics
1) defining independence
2) are we free ?

I will take one at a time ...
1) Defining Independence - Independence to me is freedom to do anything which i want to do at any time. Though i think complete independence is not possible as all the criminal activities, etc come into all that ... i will say "freedom to do whatever i want to do just ensuring that i am not causing harm to any other living being, "live or let live""

2) Are we free -

Well i will agree with Mahek on that .., we are not free ... rules are never same for all ... yes we do certainlly have better options than what we used to have. The rules of society, many of us for our benifit but when looked upon in extreme terms bind us ... they have been made to make us free. I guess as they say excess of everything is bad and same way being too much strict hampers freedom.

Lot can be written ... perhaps with discussion carrying further we can speak up more

Kshitij

[Mahek]

well i guess the thread has deviated into two topics
1) defining independence
2) are we free ?

I will take one at a time ...
1) Defining Independence - Independence to me is freedom to do anything which i want to do at any time. Though i think complete independence is not possible as all the criminal activities, etc come into all that ... i will say "freedom to do whatever i want to do just ensuring that i am not causing harm to any other living being, "live or let live""

Kshitij

well, its rightly said by you, that freedom to person should be to an extent that one doesnt harm any other being or society as whole. the same thing i remeber one of my school teacher teaching us. As kids we were alwaz inquisitive to know why the hell do we have so many laws when we are a free country. Our teacher used to say samething as Kshtij has said, that they are made to maintain decrum in society and by having these laws we get a society to live in.
"Live & Let Live" well, it remains just as quote and never gets implied in life.

[Kshitij]

"Live & Let Live" well, it remains just as quote and never gets implied in life.

I think gives the answer to us how to act in conflict situation, finding out what is right or wrong ... its a very imp tool if one breaks his/her problem into that many steps.

This certainlly has helped me get out of the difficult situations in my life and coping up with situations and being practical.

[Mahek]

well i guess the thread has deviated into two topics
1) defining independence
2) are we free ?

Are we free -

Well i will agree with Mahek on that .., we are not free ... rules are never same for all ... yes we do certainlly have better options than what we used to have. The rules of society, many of us for our benifit but when looked upon in extreme terms bind us ... they have been made to make us free. I guess as they say excess of everything is bad and same way being too much strict hampers freedom.

Kshitij

rules were for benefit of society. to upbring the backward 'castes' & 'class' of society. The person who made the consitution is no longer here, but has left back documents in such a way that politicians for vote banking make use of it in their own sweet way.
there are a lot of other things also like gundaraaj of not just gangsters but also politicians, etc etc

[Kshitij]

rules were for benefit of society. to upbring the backward 'castes' & 'class' of society. The person who made the consitution is no longer here, but has left back documents in such a way that politicians for vote banking make use of it in their own sweet way.
there are a lot of other things also like gundaraaj of not just gangsters but also politicians, etc etc

Well totally agreed ... well every thing has a bad side and a good side .. it just depends on the individuals to take the path they want to follow ... they were made to create equality ...

and well whatever they are using it for we are the people who elect them so we ourself are responsible for it. How many of us go and vote ? how many want to take part in polictics ?

to clean the system you have to be part of it ... how many of us are willing to do something about it .... i guess i will stop here cause it will lead to different topic all together ... but in true sense if want to discuss independence for india then these are valid questions.

[Mahek]

rules were for benefit of society. to upbring the backward 'castes' & 'class' of society. The person who made the consitution is no longer here, but has left back documents in such a way that politicians for vote banking make use of it in their own sweet way.
there are a lot of other things also like gundaraaj of not just gangsters but also politicians, etc etc

Well totally agreed ... well every thing has a bad side and a good side .. it just depends on the individuals to take the path they want to follow ... they were made to create equality ...

and well whatever they are using it for we are the people who elect them so we ourself are responsible for it. How many of us go and vote ? how many want to take part in polictics ?

to clean the system you have to be part of it ... how many of us are willing to do something about it .... i guess i will stop here cause it will lead to different topic all together ... but in true sense if want to discuss independence for india then these are valid questions.

1) well, true each and every  aspect has a good and a bad side. when you say how many of us go to vote, i do wish to vote, but i have not received by voting card even after applying for it N number of times. where is our system? we do not have a proper validated system in place for smooth and proper functioning.

2) how many of us vote- well, how muc hdoes our vote count? havent we heard about fake polling? or ballots being opened etc etc... its all power game that plays.
when people are ready to own responsibility, it becomes some sort of crime and they are behind the bars.

3) How many of us want to take part in politics? - A lot of them. But politics today like family business is heredity. You enjoy it when you have a strong backing, else you are put in the bushes and alwaz pulled down by corrupt politicians and OUR Beaureacratic set up.

4) To be a part of org, PEOPLE NEED to recognise what is GOOD and youth today needs to be awakened.

To have an Independent India, we need to have DEMOCRACY, a Govt for the people, by the people of the people !

[Hardik]

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