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muditgandhi
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« on: April 20, 2008, 06:35:49 PM »

It is said in Jainism that we dont beleive in sustainer then I want to ask that who is maintaining the account of the PAAP and PUNYA of a jeeva.
who has created us?Huh
who is the first man on earth according to Jainism?Huh?
If the God does not have any feelings for us then why do we worship God?Huh
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2008, 08:12:38 PM »

Jai jinenda sa

I m not very big expert
but i would like to share info wht i have

and u can read more on this website only abt KARMA, KARMO KA SANCHYA, TAP DHYAN AUR KARMA

jain dharma ke prachin naam
jain dharma ka dusra naam AARHAT DHARM bhi atyadhik vishrut raha hai.
jo arhat ke upasak the voh aarhat kehlate the.
voh vedo aurr brahmano nahi mante the.
aarhat log yagyo main vishwas nahi rakhte the woh karmbandh aur karmanirjara ko mante the.

'padmapuran' main aarhat dhramo ko sarvsheshtha dharma kaha gaya hai.
'rugved' main arhat ko vishwa ki raksha karne wala sarvashresht kaha gaya hai.

SHRUTKEVLI BADRABAHUJI NE 'KALPASUTRAJI'main bhagwan arishtnemiji aur sabhi tirthankarji ko arhat visheshan ka prayog kiya hai.

'padampuran' aur'vishnupuran' main jaindharma ke liye aarhat dharma ka prayog milta hai.

aarhat sahbd ki mukhyata bhagwan parshwnathji ke tirthkal tak chalti rahi.
mahavir yugin kal me nirganth shabd ka prayog chala tha.

JAIN AGAMJI main jin shasan ,jin marg,jin vachan shabdo a prayog hua hai.
kintu jaindharma ka prayog aagam grantho main nahi milta hai.
sarvapratham jain dharma ka paryog JINBHDRAGANI SHAMASHRMANAI KRUT VISHESHVASHYAKBHASHYA main dekhne ko prapta hota hai.

uske bad 'mastapuran' aur 'devi bhagwat' main jain dharma ka ullekh prapta hota hai.

jain dharma kisi vyakti vishesh ke naam par prachlit nahi hai aur na yeh dharma kisi vyakti vishesh ka pujak nahi hai .
isse rushabdevji,parshwanathji aur nahavirji ka dharma nahi kaha gaya hai.
yeh aarhato ka dharma hai,jin dharma hai.
jaindharma main navkar mantra mulmantra hai usme kii vyakti vishesh ko namaskar nahi kiya gaya hai.

JAIN DHARMA KA SPASHTA ABHIMAT HAI KI KOI BHI VYAKTI AADHYATMIK UTTKARSH KAR MANAV SE MAHAMANV BAN SAKTA HAI,TIRTHANKAR BAN SAKTA HAI.
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ref:the book chaubhis tirthankarji ek paryaveshan
lekhak:shri rajendra muniji 1976
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2008, 02:24:29 AM »

mudit.. the problem in understanding is all due to interpretation and misinterpretations that happen over a period of time.. i will try to give you my thoughts on your queries..
absolutely no one is maintaining an account.. there are some rules embedded in nature.. some laws that will take their course irrespective of the stature of the being they apply to in a given situation.. here i would like to share my idea of karma (action) and karma-fal (reaction).. most people believe that for every karma, the karma-fal is delayed by a few incarnations. it would mean that if you were to put your hand in fire (which amounts to a karma) you will get burnt in a future janam (which we know is not true). i believe the reaction is immediate. Karma-fal follows karma in quick succession. Then why do people believe what they believe? you see we human beings associate being rich and powerful with good karma. so how do you explain cruel, cunning or atheist humans who are infinitely rich? here comes in the idea of deferred or should i say delayed judgement. we believe that these people are reaping benefits of some past karma. well.. i believe they are reaping benefits of being brave, intelligent and by executing their well thought out plans (which is again a karma). So my answer to your first question is that no one maintains an account. universal laws exist but there is no law-maker or law-upholder.

I always used to wonder who created us and how it all started and who was the first human ever created. then i had this thought. we humans always want to quantify everything. we are not comfortable with the thought of infinity. so we want to know how old the human race is. also we want to know for how long our earth and our sun is gonna last. i believe we have existed forever. we have been created and recreated and recreated. we didn't start at any point so we were never created by anyone. we were always there. maybe in some different form. i believe that the human race itself has gone through total extinction n number of times and then we have been recreated. but remember no one created us but the univeral laws that i talk about.

if we are worshipping god for favours then we should stop right away.. according to me when one stands with folded hands in front of an idol he is only showing respect to the potential of a human to become god himself. let us humanise our gods. mahaveer was a human being just like you and me but a very special human being. but i believe we should all want to become like him 1 day.. we should have that thirst.. and that thirts will never be quenched by worshipping an idol for an entire lifetime.. we have to set on a journet to find greater happiness.. everyone has his own path to travel.. good luck to you


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