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Abhishek Singhai
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« on: October 26, 2007, 02:32:31 PM »

if u had any knowledge of "jainism is supeiour then science / science had failed jainism views then share with us..........................."
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Jainism is the greatest religion of the univ. so don't be make fun of it, & plz first think with some proof that ur's comments were true, & will not harm 2 any one............
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2007, 02:55:19 PM »

in our history grandfather of dasratha 'machkundra' gone heaven 2 fight with rakshaya from dev side, & they win.
 when he wants 2 come back then indra told him ur 6generation were over there. now what u will do in earth. then he took vardan for long rest, which was took form of other story....

so i want 2 tell u that "in present endland scientists made a string theory. Acc. 2 which
if some1 will travels with speed of light & come back he will go in future".
this theory was understood by very few people nearly 300
which tolds that our history of millions of years is true & shows we were much powerful & forward then science..........
in coping others we had loosed our actual position & become dull..............
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2007, 01:38:41 AM »

Abhishek..

I guess we didnt copy anything.. if u read some Literature from jainism u will realize how much science is there..

Few examples..

There is life in Green trees etc.. it has been prooved by science in 2oth century that is stated in jainism from ages.

No. of jivs in one drop unfiltered water . according to jainism.. countless and science has now prooved that there are some 35000 jiv in one drop of unfiltered water..

etc..
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2007, 06:25:31 PM »

jainism is a very scientific religion ...

why do jains eat in evening ? so that before they sleep they can enough water which helps is better digestion, and avoiding various stomach problems

there are many such examples Smiley

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 06:36:08 PM »

I got the below information from one website whose name I have forgotten. Because a very good comparision is given by writer, hence I am sharing this.

Jainism may provide a critical perspective and a three-fold relevance for the present day scientific thought.

1.   Philosophy of nature
2.   Philosophy of science
3.   Sociology of science



Philosophy of nature:
Concepts of matter, of life and of mind developed in Jainism may suggest fruitful analogies and resemblances with scientific concepts and theories in these fields.
The present discoveries on the massless particles (e.g. Photon, graviton, gluon) are along the lines of the karmic particles as described in Jain literature. Up to Einstein period the popular concept was that the mass is matter and matter is mass, but the discovery of massless matter seems to be revolutionary. The Jains have plenty of literature describing the massless matter and how the massless matter converts itself into mass and vice-versa.

Once the concept of massless matter is fully established by scientists, the theories on life proposed by Jains will become worth comprehending since the soul and the massless karmic matter in Jain philosophy co-exist from the beginning of time. Besides the micro and macro forms of matter there is profound knowledge available on the space-time relationship, movement of massless matter and on the finite universe with infinite space.

Philosophy of science
The second area of relevance is more at formal and methodological level of philosophy of science. The logical analysis and techniques of the Jain philosophical tradition i.e. Anekant may have important bearing that leads to the formal studies of the conceptual and methodological framework of science. Syadvad that have given significantly palpable logic's may be compared to the law of probability. It may have an important impact on natural sciences. A similar relevance for the conceptional foundations of the social science could be seen in Jain Action Theory. The concept of action has proved to be a foundational concept in the philosophy of social science and hence there is possibility of fruitful exploration.


Sociology of science:
Recent discussions about the sociology of science centre around a new image of science which we now term as a critical science, a third image, that contrasts with two earlier images of science viz., the Heroic image of science as the product of individual creativity and the Organisational image of science as a product of a technocratic order. As against these images of science we will have to develop a new perspective of critical science, which would place science in its ecological context of human adaptation. This new perspective would require a re-thinking about the moral and cultural preconditions of scientific activity.

The idea of the ecology of science is firmly grounded into a moral perspective and the Jain moral tradition of the respect for life and its sanctity may have high potentials of relevance. Jains believe that immobile living beings earth water, fire, wind and plants have life (soul). It is stressed that souls influence each other and save each other, so global thinking is essential to save the earth from ecological disasters.
The Jain doctrine proposes that souls exit in organic dead masses in stones, in lumps of earth, in drops of water, the flame of fire and in wind and in vegetation. It maintains that these five kinds of immobile beings have a sense of touch and they experience any violence caused to them just as experienced by a human being. Therefore, Jain doctrine strongly advocates that people belonging to all nationalities must refrain from destroying them. Over the millennia, Jain philosophy has been invoking such a commitment as an integral part of society so that human beings do not tinker with the semblance of nature. The Jains have cultivated the practice to live non-violently with nature.

At this critical juncture it is very essential to integrate science with religion and vice-versa, so that the futile debate over they being diametrically opposed to each other may come to an end. And this will usher in a new era of material-moral upliftment of the entire mankind.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2008, 02:22:56 AM »

i absolutely agree with u. there should be no muck raised over differences between science and religion. people are filled with such vanity. every single person on the globe who follows some religion wants to assert in some way that it is the best amongst the rest. i believe that jesus christ, buddha and mahaveer were at par. they were all great teachers. they were part of no religion or community. sometimes i think that by claiming a certain well we deprive the rest of the world of its waters. we have done that with mahaveer, christians with christ and buddhists with buddha. Religions were born after some people decided that the truth as given by these great men should be organised. If being Jain meant anything to mahaveer then i m pretty sure he would count jesus and buddha in its fold. but our definition of jainism is too small.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2008, 05:13:36 PM »

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